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Travis Barker, No Longer Vegetarian; Still Injury Prone and Seemingly Ignorant

We haven’t mentioned him in two years, but former Blink-182 drummer Travis Barker’s name still drives a tremendous amount of search engine traffic to SuperVegan. Obviously there are better sources for stories about him, but his fans are super dedicated. All we ever did is give him shit for considering eating meat to mend a broken arm that he didn’t realize was broken for three weeks and maybe also had a tumor (yeah).

Well, now he’s officially not vegetarian (though Vegetarian Star still thinks he is; vegetarians don’t eat meat–look it up!). He survived a horrible plane crash recently (based on our traffic stats, the news must have come out on September 20th), and is eating meat for the first time in 25 years to help recover from third-degree burns. Maybe it is his only hope of recovering, but I hope that’s not really true. Sounds like he was eating just as poorly as two years ago:

“Because I was a vegetarian, for my first three surgeries, it was hard to get any of my grafts to take to my real skin. I have such low levels of protein. I need protein from food rather than just protein supplements. I changed my diet. I would do anything I possibly could if they said like, ‘There’s a possibility you might heal faster if you do eat meat or just change your eating habits.’ So I did. I don’t regret it at all, I feel so much better.”

Protein supplements? Really? You can’t find vegetarian sources of protein? Anyway, I hope he recovers OK and can satisfactorily re-tattoo his skin. I also hope he goes vegetarian again, and maybe finds a way to eat healthier. I also hope this post gets lots and lots of traffic for SuperVegan.

58 Comments

  1. Comment by

    tamaramcfarland

    on #

    Oh man, that is depressing. Of course I feel bad for the guy with his heinous burns and all, but DUH! How can any reasonably well informed person actually not be able to get enough vegetarian protein??? It is everywhere! This myth about vegans not getting enough protein just drives me nuts. Grr…

  2. Comment by

    alan

    on #

    this guy looks like a real loser.
    his words prove it.

  3. Comment by

    cat

    on #

    Vegetarianism isn’t natural. All well and good if you’re into it, but seriously, condemning a seriously ill guy for eating meat when it is basically saving his life? Shame on You all.

    I am a vegetarian by the way, but I’m also reasonable.

  4. Comment by

    Canaduck

    on #

    cat–

    If you actually believe that you need that vegetarianism isn’t “natural” or that you must eat meat to get enough protein for skin grafts to work, you actually aren’t reasonable and haven’t done much research. Most people in the western world get WAY too much protein in their diets–hence the frequency of such conditions as kidney stones. Quick–what’s the word for the condition one gets when you aren’t receiving enough calcium? Osteoporosis. What about when you aren’t receiving enough iron? Anemia. What about when you don’t get enough protein?

    It’s kwashiorkor, and it’s characterized by a grossly swollen abdomen, dermatitis, and your hair growing in alternating bands of light and dark, among other things. It’s pretty much only seen in third world countries where people are barely eating at all. When’s the last time you heard of someone getting kwashiorkor?

    Even Barker’s doctors said that he’d get better faster if he decided to “eat meat or just change your eating habits.” Obviously, he was just eating a terrible diet overall and just about anything would have improved his health.

    That said, I wouldn’t really even fault him for making the decision to eat meat again, if he hadn’t decided to do it by announcing to the world that his lack of meat was responsible for his crappy health.

  5. Comment by

    Laura Leslie

    on #

    cat: Except it’s not saving his life. The guy is spreading ignorant rumors (that you’ve apparently bought into) that there are no vegetarian sources of protein. It takes the only the tiniest bit of nutritional education to realize that this is nonsense.

  6. Comment by

    Sue

    on #

    He is listening to doctors, who are the best qualified to give him help with healing. It will also be burn specialists, who are advising him to increase the protein in his diet. And seeing as the poor guy could have died, I don’t think anyone should begrudge him taking a doctors advice.
    Red meat has proven to help the body heal faster, due to the high protein levels.
    His diet of veggie burgers is no good for anyone.

  7. Comment by

    Shan

    on #

    The human is a carnivore not a herbivore, Travis should have the right to eat “real food” to gain full recovery as stated by a professional doctor, Pull ya heads in hippy Vego freaks and actually do something useful in your lives then pay out a victim of a plane crash! Go eat a tree

  8. Comment by

    Taunya

    on #

    The doctors did not tell Travis he had to eat meat, they simply said he could eat meat or change his eating habits. This shows that he was given a choice – eat meat or change you diet so it includes more protien sources (other than meat). Travis admits that he gets his protein from supplements, which tells me that he didn’t do much research on the vegetarian diet in those 25 years. I of course wish him a full and speedy recovery, and I hope he returns to the vegetarian lifestyle, but I would also hope that he takes a close look at his eating habits, educates himself and adjusts his diet accordingly.

  9. Comment by

    lee

    on #

    You vegies should all stop whining and go eat a steak

  10. Comment by

    ladysith13

    on #

    seems like the wrong kind of traffic :( I always loved Super Vegan cause it was a haven from the above ignorance.

    Basically, it sucks but it’s his choice and he has been through a lot. I agree that insinuating that a veg diet is lacking protein is lame on his part, but again…he has been through a lot and is proly traumatized and just wants this to be over with.

    And “Shan”…you say humans are carnivores? Maybe you should go read a book or pay attention in 3rd grade cause:

    car·ni·vore
    1. A flesh-eating animal.
    2. Any of various predatory, flesh-eating mammals of the order Carnivora, including the dogs, cats, bears, weasels, hyenas, and raccoons.
    3. One who victimizes or injures others; a predator.

    HUMANS ARE NOT CARNIVORES.

  11. Comment by

    Shan

    on #

    Yeah ladysith I totally got my definitions mixed up your 100% correct I got too heated up in the bullshit above my comment about Travis is an idiot blah blah, what I was really trying to say was humans that eat meat shouldn’t be criticized by vego’s for Travis turning to a more enhanced protein diet to recover from his wounds quicker thats just plain weak. It shouldn’t be a veg vs meat debate time and time again. Also the definition I know of carnivore is “A creature that eats meat” the definition you have is one of many interpretations so google it! Hahahaha this is hilarious people that get worked up over this, whats the world coming to, people are so aggresive these days….

  12. Comment by

    Laura Leslie

    on #

    This idiot is spreading ignorance that is going to cause needless suffering and death to animals. He deserves all the shit we’re giving him and more.

    You fan defenders are missing the point. Eating meat has no benefit to this guy’s health; there are countless sources of vegan protein that are just as healthy as meat if not more.

  13. Comment by

    BobbyRich

    on #

    I love how you guys are telling a guy who had half his body burned that his eating habits aren’t in line with your nazi philosophies. If a doctor tells me to eat meat, I’m gonna take his or her word over you idiots.

  14. Comment by

    L.A.

    on #

    Hey. So. Can vegetarians and vegans get suitable amounts of proteins from sources OTHER than meat? Of course! They can get the right amount of protein that they need. BUT…

    Travis needs WAY more than the typical amount of protein to heal from the devastating physical injuries he suffered. The very best way for him to get as much protein as possible is to eat meat.

    Yes, the vegan and vegetarian diet can accommodate protein levels for your average, uninjured person. But Travis has a lot of healing to do, and it’s PROBABLY best if he eats some meat. The doctors said he might heal faster; and I’m sure he wants to heal as fast as possible- I want him to! Therefore, he probably has to eat meat until he is more healed.

    Note that he NEVER said, “Being a vegetarian means I’m not getting any protein.” He just said that he needed protein from sources other than protein supplements.

  15. Comment by

    eggbeaterzluvssoy

    on #

    Something to keep in mind is that doctors receive little to no nutrition education. Also, the medical establishment knows even less about vegetarian/vegan diets. The doctors who treated Mr. Barker and recommended that he eat meat were acting out of ignorance; they assumed that meat consumption was the best/only option, probably because they didn’t know enough about how he could heal on a vegetarian diet.

  16. Comment by

    lizzle

    on #

    Supervegan, do/can you guys block the ignorant trolls?

  17. Comment by

    Laura Leslie

    on #

    For those who are apparently too dumb to click a link:

    From:
    http://www.naturodoc.com/library/nutrition/protein.htm

    Plant foods contain the same eight amino acids as animal foods do, only in differing amounts. As long as you are getting enough calories from a healthy diet, plant foods give you all the amino acids you need, by themselves or in combination with one another.

    Foods listed below are considered complete proteins, meaning they contain all of the essential amino acids:

    * Nuts
    * Soy foods, such as tofu, tempeh, miso, and soy milk
    * Sprouted seeds — each type of sprout has differing proportions of nutrients, so it’s best to eat a variety of them
    * Grains, especially amaranth and quinoa, are highest in protein and are high-quality proteins
    * Beans and legumes, especially when eaten raw
    * Spirulina and chorella (blue-green algae), which are over 60 percent protein

  18. Comment by

    Jason Das

    on #

    In response to Lizzle’s question. We have the power to block people or delete comments, but we generally prefer not to; unless they’re making baseless personal attacks or doing something illegal. Or spamming. I love nuking the spam comments.

    Otherwise, the more the merrier. It all adds to the discussion (which of course anyone is welcome to ignore).

  19. Comment by

    stopanimalonanimalviolenc

    on #

    laura leslie, you do realize that animals are the biggest killers of other animals (including innocent ones), so in fact it is the animals that are the ignorant ones, they need to stop eating meat and stop killing each other. this mindless animal on animal violence much end, it breaks my heart

  20. Comment by

    Waz

    on #

    wow whoeva wrote that hes a poser shud eat a dick and die. hes not popular cos hes a vegetarian ffs. stop crying and go back to drum circle

  21. Comment by

    Sue

    on #

    The all knowing universe, of the SuperVegans. I’m a vegetarian and dont get where all this hate has come from. I find it ironic that you guys are shouting out ignorance, when none of you have ever been in his situation. Leave travis alone, and let him heal. Don’t beat on him cause he eats me, praise the fact that he is alive. But wait, the fact that he lived isnt the important but is it

  22. Comment by

    kc

    on #

    I don’t understand how some of you can criticize someone for having gone through something such as a plane crash. Ask yourself next time you are flying, if I crash and burn half of my body will I change my diet to recover sooner? You probable like everyone else will do what the doctors tell you in order to get better. If not you are just plain stupid! And a comment to the person talking about protein supplements, yes there are protein supplements out there but when your body has gone through shock, dehydration, tissue loss, and the shut down of your kidneys, and liver from this it is easier for the body to digest animal protein. Anyone with severe burns needs high sources of protein in order to heal. Look it up and do your homework before you criticize.

  23. Comment by

    jeff

    on #

    people should just mind their own business and let the guy heal in any way he and his doctors choose. also for people who think they would have been braver than him in the exact same circumstance… think again.

  24. Comment by

    teenab

    on #

    Hey Travis, there is always soy protien powder, Vega powder (created by a vegan triathlete and delish!). Get out your blender or something. Plus, all the plant foods other people have mentioned. Does anyone notice he looks way skinnier than in his Blink days??? I recall watching an MTV special when they toured his home, and there he was in his pantry, showing the Kraft Dinner, Spaghetti O’s, etc because he “couldn’t cook”. IF that is the case, nutritionally he was behind the ball already, vegetarian or not. A junk food vegetarian is just as unhealthy as an omnivore eating the Standard American Diet.

  25. Comment by

    BankBank

    on #

    awesome thread! some really insightful comments here.

  26. Comment by

    KC

    on #

    First off: When I say this, I am NOT bashing the Vegan or Vegetarian way of eating. However:

    Plant protein is incomplete. It doesn’t have all the amino acids the body needs. Meat has all the amino acids. Plus, its easier to digest. That may be why its better.

    Please don’t shoot me down because I am supporting the decision to eat meat. Vegetarianism and Veganism isn’t bad. However, your body doesn’t get all the amino acids it needs. That may be why he had to start eating meat. Also, imagine you were burned really badly. You’ve probably do anything to get out of hte hospital and get better sooner.

  27. Comment by

    lol

    on #

    wow. give travis a break. hes been through alot this past month and all you cranky vegans can do is bitch about how hes eating meat? god, youre a bunch of losers.

  28. Comment by

    Jtrain

    on #

    Personally, I prefer a vegetarian/pescetarian eating style, but I find it sort of hard to find something I can enjoy eating that has a lot of protein. Therefore I don’t condemn him for taking protein supplements. Maybe he’s just a picky eater. And what if meat really is helping him faster than veggie protein can? He’s a father who longs to play with his children, a musician who desires to get back to playing music, and a man who probably misses his normal life; just let him recover and worry about his vegetarian lifestyle when he’s in good health again.

  29. Comment by

    Trent

    on #

    KC, you’re simply incorrect. Soy contains the complete set of essential amino acids (9 total). Furthermore, humans can digest 91% of the protein in soy versus 92% in meat. Many people just have an irrational gut feeling that meat is “good” for you, so they refuse to objectively consider these facts.

    I’m not attacking you, and I’m not going to judge Travis for deciding to eat meat after a traumatic crash. That said, the implication in many comments here that it’s “OK” to spread misinformation simply because of a tragic situation is absurd. The strongest emotion cannot alter the truth.

  30. Comment by

    Jadeoh

    on #

    Just a quick correction: Aren’t human beings inheritently omnivorous (plant and meat) creatures as opposed to carnivorous (meat only) or herbivorous (plant only)? I agree that by nature we are very adaptable to diet changes such as becoming vegetarian. Also an all vegetarian diet is better for us when done properly than say an all meat diet (See how long you would live doing that!)

    But I have to agree with the doctors on this one. Beyond the pure protein needs of a severe burn patient, the digestable nutrients in the meat such as the white blood cells help excelerate the healing process. This is key to minimizing scarring.

    I understand that many vegans are very passionate when it comes to animal ethics and diet choice. Still, I hardly think that your minimal understanding of dietary needs in human beings can compare to that of a medical doctor. Even if you have been eating vegan for twenty-five years and have read or posted on every board doesn’t make you an expert. That is like saying because I watch Formula One racing on television and have driven a car for twenty-five years I suddenly have all the understanding of a professional race car driver. Not even close. Let the doctor’s do their job. They wouldn’t be working at the top burn clinic in the world if they regularly handed out bad advice. Again, I also say if it were truly better for Travis to have a pure soy or other vegan source of nutrition they would simply give it to him.

    Nutrition needs of a healthy person are just flexible enough for you to live a vegan lifestyle and accomodate your ethical concerns. It is also far and away better for you than the diet of fast food and junk that most Americans choose to cram into their faces. But I have to say that a diet that includes small, balanced portions of healthy lean meats and fish is superior to one that is vegan only. That person will be stronger, heal faster and face less chance of infection or sickness. This is only true for people who monitor their meat intake and balanace it within their diet. Eating hotdogs every night or McDonalds everyday is not the same as having grilled fish, chicken breast or lean steak two or three meals a week.

    -Jade
    Personal Trainer

  31. Comment by

    thomas

    on #

    You guys eat ALGAE?!?!?

  32. Comment by

    brianc33

    on #

    What a bunch of noise over a confused issue. Let’s clarify: People on SuperVegan are pissed off because Barker uninformedly gave a quote that indicates 1.) you can’t get protein from a vegetarian diet without using protein powder and 2.) that he “feels so much better now” simply because he’s gone back to eating meat.

    He’s a drummer, not a nutrionist so that’s part of the problem. People will take whatever today’s star du jour says about *anything* and assume its true. Celebrity makes you an expert on everything — except it doesn’t.

    Secondly, as has been pointed out in many comments, most MD’s are woefully uneducated about health — they are more educated about *medicine* and *post-onset therapuetics* — big difference from diet and healthy living.

    Finally I don’t think a lay burn victim can begin to sort out what’s making him feel better during the difficult process of recovery. So giving the credit to eating lousy hospital flank steak is doing vegetarianism a big disservice as well.

    Nobody is begrudging Barker’s recovery or him taking his doctor’s advice (even though it probably lacks a complete awareness of overall nutrition.)

  33. Comment by

    Jason Das

    on #

    Impressive overview and assessment, briancc! I doubt it will do any good, but well done.

  34. Comment by

    Dean

    on #

    In addition to to soy, quinoa and hemp (or hemp seed) contain a complete amino acid profile for humans. So it is incorrect to say that plant-based foods are incomplete proteins. There are other foods as well, I just can’t name them off the top of my head. If someone eats all the different seeds that humans can eat, all the different nuts, and chooses from the thousands of legumes and throws in some grains, they will NOT be protein deficient. I am not saying Travis is wrong. But he clearly was not eating a good vegan diet in the first place. He is not a poster person for veganism, so I guess I don’t care what he does.

  35. Comment by

    omg

    on #

    omg stfu and let travis eat what he wants to eat

  36. Comment by

    Dean

    on #

    excelerate? Nice spelling. Except you got it wrong, and everything else wrong as well. It doesn’t have anything to do with white blood cells in meat. I read the entire wikipedia article on white blood cells and it says they come from bone marrow, not the food a person eats. I quote: “…they are all produced and derived from a multipotent cell in the bone marrow known as a hematopoietic stem cell.” I have not touched animal protein in 15 years. I don’t have any deficiency of white blood cells. Neither does any other long term vegan I know. Please research these things before you comment.

  37. Comment by

    AJ

    on #

    Sorry, I know I’m late to this discussion, but somehow none of the vegan alliance commented on this ridiculous comment: “I love how you guys are telling a guy who had half his body burned that his eating habits aren’t in line with your nazi philosophies.”

    NAZI philosophies? Do you even know what nazism is? For a start the NSDAP was antisemitic, racist, and eugenic. Go pick up a copy of Eternal Treblinka and then tell my Jewish butt that my set of ethics are comparable to nazism. Ever heard of a concentration camp? Remind you factory farming? Veganism is about treating ALL sentient beings as ends and not merely means to our ends. Sorry, you’ve probably never read Kant either.

    While I side with the my fellow vegans on this one, no I’m not gonna knock the guy for following “doctors orders,” even though the doctor probably was not properly trained in nutrition. However, I can’t sit back and let some jerk say that veganism is akin to nazism. Not cool.

    BobbyRich, go read something on Nazi Germany and/or veganism and then tell me we’re nazis. I don’t like to be mean, but that was horribly offensive and out of line.

  38. Comment by

    Andy

    on #

    The problem is, let’s face it, the majority of vegetarians these days are like most meat-eaters and eat a lot of crap. It’s a lot easier to junk it than it was 20 years ago, when the only option was to make real food and not just buy off the shelf, high fat, high salt, high sugar stuff paraded as healthy and meat-free. I enjoy cooking, and know what to do with all manner of veggies to serve them up in lots of tasty ways. I therefore don’t have any deficiencies. If someone is ignorant, lazy, ill-equipped to feed themselves unless it comes out of a wrapper, then yes – they could end up deficient in something. But doctors are always, always on hand to spout the ‘you must eat’ mantra. And it’s rubbish.

    It amazes me how so many people, rich or poor, treat doctors as all-knowing gods and, in turn, how the doctors love to be treated that way. What was that, Doc? You told me to what? Okay, Doc, anything you say Doc, you’re always right Doc…

    Er, no. Doctors can kill as well as cure, so they can damn well give biased advice along the way as well.

  39. Comment by

    HobokenKirsten

    on #

    Hmmm… eat meat to recover more quickly from the burns, just to die of heart disease or cancer. Seems to me, it would make more sense to amp up the plant based protein and leave meat out of it.

  40. Comment by

    Zee

    on #

    I’m so disappointed. After 25 years you go back to eating meat?! There is plenty of protein in vegan foods. He was clearly eating unhealthy anyway. smh.

  41. Comment by

    RB

    on #

    The claim of Travis eating unhealthy simply because he’s eating meat is really the only ignorant statement here.

  42. Comment by

    JDB

    on #

    First off, I will say I am not a vegetarian.I am certainly not against it, everyone is entitled to live as they see fit. So I guess you could say I am kind of an outsider to this whole discussion. But here is what I have witnessed. It seems to me that many of the people that frequent these discussions, are very quick to dismiss, or degrade anyone who does not share their views. That being said, there have also been some very thought out respectful comments.

    It seems very difficult to get someone to objectively see your point of view, if you are screaming at them and telling them what an idiot they are, simply because they do not share you opinion. Doesn’t that make you as bad? or worse?

    I think the biggest thing that no one seems to think about, is the fact that Travis Barker, is lucky to be alive. He almost died in a plane crash. Not to mention the fact two people who were probably very good friends of his died, right next to him. I don’t think any of us would want to be in his shoes. So I don’t think anyone is qualified to comment, because we are all alive and well, and could never imagine what it was or is like for him right now.

    I think we should all remember, we are all human, none of us are perfect. Even if Travis, has not completely thought out all of this, given what he just survived, I think he is entitled to be human.

    I am sure he is thanking God, that he is alive, and well. We should all do the same. Be happy for who you are, and don’t condemn because someone else is not like you. Thank you for hearing me out.

  43. Comment by

    Arlene

    on #

    just a question…. if there were no supermarkets were we’d go to pick up our nicely pre-packed meats, if there were no guns to hunt animals with or knives to cut them apart with or fire to cook them with, how would we, the human race eat meat? last time I checked I couldn’t tear an animal apart with my bare hands and eat it raw…..hmmmmm

  44. Comment by

    Ryan

    on #

    There is plenty of protein in non-meat food products.

    Also, someone was saying “humans are carnivores”. So, you don’t eat any non-meat foods? I think you meant omnivore…

    I am a dedicated vegetarian, and I would pick the choice of changing eating habits over eating meat, as they gave the choice to him. I personally believe he made the wrong decision, but nevertheless, do get better. I wish blink-182 would get back together after this close-call.

  45. Comment by

    Gatesy1

    on #

    My God, children! Firstly, take the self rightiousness out of it for 1 minute!
    I do not judge people by what they eat!
    I personally eat meat, but have a very open mind!
    My Girlfriend is vegan and I agree with why she does it. I just choose at this time not to go vegi or vegan.
    We love each other just the same.
    The fact is with Travis, weather eating meat or not, he is the same guy, and he should not be persicuted just as he changed his belief of state of mind!

    There are so many great things to eat in the vegi or vegan world, I know I am a chef and eat vegi and vegan all the time, but it is a typical fact that red meat does help healing and also milk for calcium!

    But aside from that, persecute Travis for doing someting really bad, not because he is trying to get better in his own way!

    To judge a guy before you walk a mile in his shoes is stupid, so keep your beliefs and mind set and let him have his!

    And lets all hope he gets better soon, I think everyone has got so mixed up in the Veggi Meat eater debate, this point has been sorely missed!

    cheers!!

  46. Comment by

    bitchplease

    on #

    Gatesy, addressing those who disagree with a condescending term like “children” is not exactly beginning your comment in good faith.

    “it is a typical fact that red meat does help healing and also milk for calcium”

    Typical as in people like to spread it around as gospel without checking their sources. Fact? Not so much.

    “I do not judge people by what they eat!”

    That’s nice for you, since your way of eating causes untold damage to our environment, health problems for you, and massive, horrific suffering for animals. As your way of eating makes the worse a worse place, I do judge you. And Travis Barker, too.

  47. Comment by

    VeganKamikaze

    on #

    WTF?!
    I don’t believe him when he say that he was a veg, he’s actually owner of a Wahoo’s fish taco in California, what kind of veggie is that?!!
    damn it! I’m tired of this hypocrisy!

  48. Comment by

    Jason

    on #

    I do not think anyone should bash him for eating meat, but there is something to remember. Most doctors receive minimal nutrition training. With that, look at consensus. All major medical organizations state that a vegetarian diet can meet all needs I’m all stages of life. Look at the National Institute of Health, the American Medical Association, the American Dietic Association, Mayo Clinic, etc. The argument of needing meat is ignorance. He must have had a very poor vegetarian diet to not get enough protein. Was he vegan or just vegetarian?

  49. Comment by

    jon

    on #

    “The human is a carnivore not a herbivore, Travis should have the right to eat “real food” to gain full recovery as stated by a professional doctor, Pull ya heads in hippy Vego freaks and actually do something useful in your lives then pay out a victim of a plane crash! Go eat a tree”

    4 Points of your ignorance;
    1. What are you doing on this website?
    2. Humans are classified as Omnivore.
    3. You should be the one to get a life if your on vegan websites trying to make vegans feel bad. We wont, and we feel bad for you for being so gullible

  50. Comment by

    Toby182

    on #

    Some of you people are total arseholes, its his life choice get over it! If you could eat meat to help you get stronger and live to see your family you probably would!? and don’t give it all that protein supplements bullshit, its not the same as real meat. Why dont you just leave the guy alone, people dont judge you for choosing to become vegetarian so why judge travis for eating meat?

  51. Comment by

    bitchplease

    on #

    people dont judge you for choosing to become vegetarian so why judge travis for eating meat?

    1. Perhaps you should tell that to the hundreds of people who’ve mocked me for being vegetarian over the years.

    2. I judge meat eaters because eating meat supports an industry that destroys our environment and causes massive amounts of suffering and death to thinking, feeling creatures. Being a vegetarian does not harm anyone. The two positions are not at all morally equivalent.

  52. Comment by

    tobywr182

    on #

    why dont you people get off your back, the guys like a total vegan and had donated so much to charity recently hes hardly a bad guy. Theres people out there who rape and murder and your getting all worked up about some guy eating some meat….get real

  53. Comment by

    Spookitie

    on #

    Some sources will tell you meat is actually more difficult for the human body to digest because of our very long intestine length and the pH level in our stomach (both that of herbivores). Whether or not you believe that to be true, it is a fact that it is VERY difficult for a body accustomed to a vegetarian diet to digest meat. After three months or less of a vegetarian diet, the human body rejects meat when it is reintroduced. The person will experience hair loss and awful diarrhea among other things. Recommending adding meat to a sick vegetarians diet is a VERY poor decision, and will likely make recovery more tedious.

  54. Comment by

    Mike

    on #

    I don’t understand how some of you can criticize someone for having gone through something such as a plane crash. Ask yourself next time you are flying, if I crash and burn half of my body will I change my diet to recover sooner? You probable like everyone else will do what the doctors tell you in order to get better. If not you are just plain stupid! And a comment to the person talking about protein supplements, yes there are protein supplements out there but when your body has gone through shock, dehydration, tissue loss, and the shut down of your kidneys, and liver from this it is easier for the body to digest animal protein. Anyone with severe burns needs high sources of protein in order to heal. Look it up and do your homework before you criticize.

  55. Comment by

    eatlessmeat

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    Calling people losers because they don’t adhere to your personal standards of diet and nutrition is NO DIFFERENT than meat eaters who do the exact same thing to you. Why is it that my interest in becoming a total vegetarian is constantly soured by the elitest comments posted on these sites? Some of you have been vegetarians for like 5 minutes, yet you criticize celebrities and others who just ate meat for the first time in 20 years? Maybe you should wait at least 20 years before opening your mouth and attacking someone whose been a vegetarian longer than you’ve been driving. THIS is starting to seem a bit ridiculous to me. I don’t even want to tell a staunch vegetarian that I occassionally eat fish or chicken because I’m an athlete and feel I need it once or twice a month, because there always a NON athlete who doesn’t workout or train who immediately wants to give ME advice that I haven’t asked for. And then I have to listen to them go on and on about how they’re a ‘real’ vegetarian and I’m a loser? Like I care. I’m more interested in my overall health. On the one hand you all don’t want to be judged or ridiculed for being vegetarians, but you’re more than ready to consume HUMAN meat in your devouring attacks on anyone who isn’t your clone, and your attacks are ruthless, condescending, and it just makes the entire point of your cause seem a bit looney. Like that religious guy who doesn’t encourage you to do better but rather attacks every move you make. That’s what you all seem to be doing. And you don’t seem to be policing yourself for the most part, so KUDOS to all the pure vegetarians up here telling your peers to SHUT their traps when necessary. No adult needs YOU to tell them what they should be eating. They have their own doctors and their own nutritionists, etc. I am choosing veg for my health, but then there’s the guy who attacks me because I’m not an activist like he is, or that I didn’t choose it because I love the same animals he does or for the ‘right reasons’. I mean, get over it okay? It’s starting to look really lame to some of us newbies. Really lame.

  56. Comment by

    Miriam

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    Seems To me that if u eat fish and you don’t eat any other meat at all then it’s ok to consider yourself vegetarian still

  57. Comment by

    yaok

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    yeah, you’re right. because fish is a vegetable.

  58. Comment by

    fallen1

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    to repair muscle tissue or anything like that one needs protein. and lots of it. in his fast paced career he cant be injured for 6 months- 1 year on a steady vegan diet…would he stay alive on a vegan diet…yes…would he heal in a time logical way…no.

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